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Posted by Matt Bertuzzi on Wed, Sep 01, 2010 @ 09:14 AM
I recently ran across an extremely active discussion on LinkedIn. The topic was What's the #1 Voice Mail Mistake Average Sales People Make?
At last tally, the thread had 65+ comments & I thought I'd do some analysis of the sentiments in this hot debate. The first debate point broke down around:
Which is the bigger mistake, leaving or not leaving voice mail?
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There were certainly strong opinions on both sides, but the vast majority favored using voicemail as a tool in the sales process.
The PRO VM Camp argued: When I leave a VM, I'm not expecting a call back. If I leave a short and compelling message, my hope is that they may take my call the next time I show up on caller id.
While the CON VM Camp countered: Your job is to work the phones, SPEAK to people, don't leave them messages and expect them to do your work for you and call YOU back.
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The second debate centered around:
What mistakes do Sales People make when leaving voicemails?
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 The comments broke down into 4 main categories:
- Messages that aren't sufficiently relevant to Buyers
- Messages that are too long
- Sounding scripted, rushed, nervous or overly casual
- Leaving a single voicemail (the one-and-done approach) with no methodology for subsequent calls or emails
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I wanted to share 3 comments that stuck out for me:
Make sure you prove to the prospect in the first 5 seconds of your voicemail that you have researched them, have something in common or were referred to them by a colleague or acquaintance. The goal of voicemail if you're prospecting is not to have them call you back saying I want to buy - that's not realistic (although that would be nice) but to acknowledge that there may be some potential for you to solve a business challenge they are currently facing and it's worth additional exploration. - Ray Carroll
Leaving a message that says "we want to become your global partner for XX product" is much scarier than "Hi, I have a couple questions about how XX is purchased." Scary questions don't get returned (in my world). - Mike Osterhaudt
Not having a game plan for the message is mistake #1. Not listening to a few practice voice mail messages is mistake #2. Leave a few practice messages in your own VM box. We all love the sound of our own voice, but be honest, would you return your own voice mail? If not, change your plan, sharpen the message. Rinse and repeat. I learn a ton about what not to do from the voice mails I get from people soliciting me. At least 95% are too long and lack a compelling reason to do anything other than hit the delete button. The challenge is to make sure I don't repeat those mistakes. - Brad Hall
I would love to hear your thoughts.
- Should sales people be leaving voicemails?
- What mistakes do see you Reps making?
Posted by Matt Bertuzzi on Fri, May 07, 2010 @ 07:22 AM
 Last week LinkedIn rolled out a new feature: “Follow Company”. My initial reaction was that this would just add to the information clutter problems that we’re all facing.
After a week of limited use, I can say my first impression was dead wrong. This tool should be added to the Inside Sales arsenal today. What it does LinkedIn describes the feature as follows: Starting today, you can be in the loop on new developments, potential business opportunities or even job opportunities by following companies of interest to you Here is how my LinkedIn homepage looked this morning (you can see 2 examples of companies I’ve chosen to follow).
What it gives Reps On this blog and in conversation with clients, we stress the importance of trigger events and delivering timely, relevant & compelling messaging in outbound prospecting efforts. “Follow Company” gives your Reps a stream of potentially relevant trigger events that use changes in the buyer’s environment to potentially engage in conversation. For example: - Departures and/or new hires in target roles
- New job opening in target departments
- Internal role changes that might spur re-engagement

Now, I’m sensitive to the difficult balancing act between crafting buyer-centric messaging and establishing & meeting Inside Sales productivity goals. The reason for my bullishness on this tool is that it’s native to LinkedIn and doesn’t add to the growing list of applications & sites that are involved in pre-call planning. Who it's best for There are some limitations to which types of organizations can or should be followed. Follow Company works best for: - Companies that are large enough to have formal LinkedIn Company profiles
I've found 3 person shops that have claimed their profiles and much larger organizations that have not.
- Companies that aren't so large as to inundate you with information
Netflix, for example, had 1 role change, 8 job postings & 4 employee departures all within the last 7 days.
But what do you think? How do we walk the fine line between preparation and activity? Can this tool be useful in your Reps’ prospecting efforts? Also, here’s a great write-up on the how to use Follow Company. Thanks for listening
Posted by Matt Bertuzzi on Thu, Feb 04, 2010 @ 08:52 AM
The other day I was listening to an interview on selling blunders that Mike Schultz from RainToday, had with Dan Seidman, sales coach and author of Sales Autopsy.
Dan shared a truly horrific sales story, which I've transcribed:
Rick is a Field Rep for a printing services company. For 6 months, he's been tracking the President of a target firm to get a meeting. He finally gets the appointment and is let into his office. The office is so impressively decorated that Rick admits to being pretty intimidated.
Remembering that early on in his selling career, Rick was taught how to build rapport by looking around the room for the fishing picture or golf trophy. So Rick glances around the office, sees a picture on the gentleman's desk and says "Wow, a photo of you and John Madden with your arms around each other. That's a fantastic photo! How did you get a picture with John Madden, of course a NFL great."
The President of the company glares back at him and says "That's not John Madden, that's my wife."
Wow. Thankfully in Inside Sales, we're spared from making that same atrocious (and fatal) slip-up.
But that doesn't mean that we in Inside Sales should not focus on building rapport the new-fashioned way. More often than not, with information that's publically available on the internet, we can learn 10x more about a prospect than we could from a quick glance around their office.
So why shouldn't rapport involve:
- Doing some research
Think 2-3 minutes on LinkedIn, Google, etc.
- Being prepared
Being ableto speak to shared connections and recent company news
- Demonstrating that I'm a seller who won't waste your time
I'm prepared to speak plainly. Maybe we're a fit, maybe not. Here's what I think I know about you and your company. Let's get to a go/no-go on qualification quickly and directly.
Nigel Edelshain shared an excellent example of the Inside Sales slip-up in his Sales 2.0 Vendor Cold Call that Sucked!. Here's an excerpt:
It kills me that this company actually has a pretty good tool that is VERY close to my social calling methodology and yet this sales person called me without any indication that they even looked at my LinkedIn profile. Their tool analyzes LinkedIn profiles! Killer. I'm actually shocked and I've seen plenty of sales mistakes.
... This call may be the killer illustration of the fact that tools and technology are useless if people don't use them effectively -or don't use them at all! Here we have a (supposed) leader in the Sales 2.0 space letting their sales people call prospects without even using their own tools. If this sales person had used one ounce of the information available to them through their own tool this would have been a warm call. They turned any easy call into a stone cold call.
Nigel's point is spot on. In the comments on his post, Krista Moon makes the point that Sales people cannot be expected to both do the leg work of pre-call planning and hit the activity metrics defined by Senior Management.
Sales people are pressured to contact too many accounts, and they don't have the time to actually do it right, no matter what tools are available. The whole way "sales" is set up and the job sales people are expected to do is the same as it has always been, but the process has totally changed. Seems to be a disconnect there.
I would argue that meaningful conversations is the metric. Banging through a list with vanilla messaging, unaware of the business issues, interests and other unique buyer persona qualities of the recipient is a waste of resource (for the vast majority of sales organizations). The trick is finding the right balance between pre-call planning and activity that makes the process repeatable and scalable.
Would you agree? (Photo credit: Ed Bierman)
Posted by Matt Bertuzzi on Wed, Oct 07, 2009 @ 08:32 AM
The question of whether or not to leave a voicemail in prospecting efforts is a very hot topic right now. There was an excellent discussion at Focus on Does anyone leave voicemails anymore? which I recommend you take a look at.
Now, I've already shared a little rant on what not to do when leaving voicemails: Do Your Team's Voicemails Sell the Conversation? But more importantly, if probably less buzz-worthy, I wanted to share a recent example of someone who did it right.
I receive a fair amount of cold calls and almost never pick up my phone for an unfamiliar / blocked number. I do, however, listen to my messages up to the point that the seller loses my interest. But the other day, I received a voicemail that held my interest and really sold the conversation. The seller addressed two hugely important things for me within the 1st 10 seconds:
- Why me?
Of all the people you could be calling, what makes me so perfect for your solution?
How did he do that? He told me, upfront, that his solution was for B2B Marketers who use Salesforce.com and care about lead management. I thought: I am. We do. And I do.
- Why me now?
With everything else I have on my to-do list, why is now the time to listen to what you have to say?
So how did he do that? He quoted me a MarketingSherpa stat (this is my rough recollection) that only 35% of B2B Marketers were using a tool for xyz. But those that did, saw a 125% increase in their abc conversions.
So what did I, the buyer, hear?
If only 35% of all B2B Marketer are doing this, I can stay ahead of the noise out there and make sure my messaging is really being heard. 125% increase in conversions?! Let me take a look at Salesforce.com metrics now and see where that would put us from a revenue perspective with this tool.
If you'll allow me, I want to share a quick story about Why You? / Why You Now? (WY? WYN?). First off, it's not my concept. Somewhere in '04 / '05 I took a sales training class with Jeff Hoffman from Basho Strategies. He introduced me to WY? WYN? And it's something I have thought about weekly for the better part of the last 5 years. Talk about sales training with legs!
The strategy is simple - outbound messaging must revolve around that fact that buyers don't care what you have to say unless you answer for them directly and up-front Why Me? / Why Me Now?
I would love to hear your thoughts? What do you think of WY? WYN? How does your team deliver outbound messaging that get prospects to move?
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Posted by Matt Bertuzzi on Wed, Sep 09, 2009 @ 06:39 AM
 On the blog last Friday I shared a post that I found interesting. It did a great job of laying out the case for B2B websites to "sell a conversation". There are some thoughtful comments so please check them out.
I want to pick up the "selling the conversation" notion again but this time as it relates to voicemail.
I stepped out of the office yesterday and returned to the following voicemail. (Note: I changed the name, company and whitepaper title to protect the innocent.) The left side is what they said and the right side is what I heard.
WHAT THEY SAID
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WHAT I HEARD
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HI Matt, This is First Longlastname from ABC.
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Your company name sounds somewhat familiar. You - I don't know. That name I'd remember.
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My phone number is 617-555-1234 extension 617. |
Are you really calling me to give me your phone number?
(My left hand makes a swift move towards the "7" key to delete the message)
But I thought what the heck; I'll give them another chance.
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Last week you download our Whitepaper "Leveraging LinkedIn for Lead Generation".
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OK, that rings a bell. But so what? Why the call?
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The reason for my call is that we generally follow up to see if you might....
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What?! You're taking up my time because that is what you generally do?
(At this point and seemingly without any instruction from my conscious mind, my finger hits the "7" key and message is deleted.) |
Does this voicemail sell the conversation to you? Would you have felt compelled to return this call? Is that what you generally do?
Every interaction with a prospect needs to deliver a compelling reason for them to take action. Whether warm, cold calling or inbound follow-up, we have to sell the conversation.
So what might First Longlastname have done differently? Here's a few ideas:
- Focus on buyer personas
If I'm worth a follow up phone call, I must be a high probability lead for ABC. If they had constructed buyer personas, they'd understand more about my motivation, goals and challenges.
So rather than: Last week you download our Whitepaper "Leveraging LinkedIn for Lead Generation".
They might say: Many of the Marketers I work with are focused on optimizing their use of social networks like LinkedIn for lead generation. I would assume, based on your download of our White Paper, that this is also an issue for you.
- What's the return for returning the call?
Also based on my buyer persona, First Longlastname would have a better idea of what other resources ABC has that might be of interest me.
So rather than: The reason for my call is that we generally follow up to see if you might....
They might say: I have a research report on how other professional services firms are using LinkedIn to great effect. It isn't generally available on our site, but if you return my call I'd be happy to share it with you. If appropriate perhaps we might discuss how ABC has worked with Marketing Executives, like you, to....
You get the idea. If your team's voicemails:
- focus on the buyer
- address their goals
- share what you can offer them
Then you are well on your way to selling the conversation in your prospecting process.
Am I expecting too much? Are there any other ideas on what First Longlastname could/should have done?
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Posted by Trish Bertuzzi on Thu, Aug 06, 2009 @ 07:17 AM
I recently read a great post Robert Lesser, of Direct Impact Marketing, wrote called Use Outbound Marketing to Target These Buyer Types. It coordinates nicely with our recent discussion around The Flaw In Calculating Inbound v. Outbound Marketing.
The meat of Robert's argument is that having an intimate knowledge of your buyer has never been more important. It is key to understand:
- The challenges they face on a day to day basis
- The projects that are important to them
- How their boss measures success
These data points should serve as the foundation for outbound messaging.
Some buyers will reach out to you...that is the power and the beauty of inbound marketing. But, like it or not, some buyers require that you do the reaching. Understanding how, how often and with what medium to reach out - that is the secret sauce of outbound.
Effective outbound also mandates you understand what kind of buyer you are targeting. Robert did a great job defining different buyer types and we added our two cents on how to sell to them:
The Unaware Buyer - is evaluating but is unaware of your solution despite your high level of marketing activity.
With this buyer you are late to the game. The other vendors have already set the agenda so you need to go in with guns blazing. Don't waste time on fluff, go right to the meat of your competitive advantage and be relentless.
The Buyer with Unmet Needs - may have underlying needs that have not been openly discussed with a third party. Or perhaps, the buyer was unaware of a solution that would address their needs so had not initiated an evaluation. Early stage solutions that are new-to-market often target buyers with latent needs.
Even in a Sales 2.0 world there remain sales situations that require taking latent pain to recognized pain. This is most especially true if you are selling to the innovator and early adopter space. Here is where drip marketing and lead nurturing are critical. Identify your buyer, arouse curiosity, begin a conversation and then delver relevant content combined with the human touch to educate them and position your solution. Not an easy task but with the advent of some of the great technologies out there like Eloqua, Genius, Marketo, Silverpop and others, it is a lot easier than it has ever been before.
The Tuned-out Buyer - not all buyers participate in social media or conduct online searches. Some buyers expect that some vendors must reach out to them as a precondition to considering their solution.
A typical decision maker will get a minimum of 30 unsolicited calls and/or emails a day. Cutting through the noise is key to success in outbound marketing. Note what your Reps are communicating in their voice and email messages. Is it all about you or is it about the buyer and what they care about? If you don't know or it is all about you, now is time to step back and spend some time redrafting your message.
The Buyer at the Tipping Point - B2B marketing is part art and part science. Given the length of the marketing and sales cycle, we can often identify many of the touches that led to a closed sale but we are unable to pinpoint the catalyst that converted the buyer.
The moral of the story here is "Know Thy Trigger Events". Spend some time knowing what trigger events would lead a buyer to look at you. Then invest in a technology like InsideView to deliver notifications to your sales organization of those events. To make this work, make sure your sales organization is prepared with messaging that incorporates the trigger events into their outreach. Don't waste an event opportunity by delivering vanilla messaging.
So, thanks Robert for a great post. And readers, please feel free to share your comments and thoughts on how buyer types impact the inbound/outbound marketing mix! (Photo Credit: mbgrigby)
Posted by Trish Bertuzzi on Tue, Jun 23, 2009 @ 06:37 AM
Paul McCord was kind enough to invite me to participate in his Boost Your Sales Series. The following is cross-posted from the Sales and Sales Management Blog. ------
I am not a fanatical baseball fan like some of my friends. My friend Linda can quote stats and facts about the Red Sox till your head spins. She lives for the game.
Anyway, the reason I want to talk about why prospecting is like baseball is because I recently saw a quote by Mickey Mantle that struck home:
| "During my 18 years in baseball, I came to bat almost 9,000 times. I struck out over 1,700 times and walked over 1,800 times. That means I played seven years in the major leagues without even hitting a baseball." |
Wow - 7 years without hitting the ball! What dedication, what a positive mental attitude, what a viewpoint that you have to put in the time to get the results you need to be an all star.
Don't you wish your sales organization understood that successful prospecting needs to be based on the same positive attributes?
How many times have you heard Reps say: "I called those leads and they are terrible"? Then you go into the database and see that they lobbed out a few calls to a few of the leads and, big surprise, they got out of that effort what they put in - nothing.
Or, how many of them lament that cold calling yields no results yet they never do it? Or, and this one gets my blood boiling, how many times have you heard them call a prospect and say "Bob, I was just calling to follow-up on a whitepaper you recently downloaded"? Yeah, that's a compelling message!
So, how do you provide them with the dedication, positive mental attitude and the understanding that every prospecting exercise may not result in a home run? You coach them - every great athlete has a great coach behind them.
- Coaching Step 1:
Give them the metrics against which to measure themselves. Baseball is all about stats and so is prospecting. Set their expectations that they will connect with 20 - 25% of their dials and that 10 - 17% of those connections will result in a qualified opportunity.
- Coaching Step 2:
Provide them with the equipment they need to be successful. Give them great leads, give them accurate lists and give them great tools. Have you created elevator pitches that are about your buyer persona and not about you? Have you crafted voicemail messages and emails templates that deliver value and resonate with your prospect's issues?
- Coaching Step 3:
Act like a coach. When was the last time you swung a bat? If you lead a team, you should spend at least 4 hours a month doing their job. Get in there and prospect. There is a double benefit to this - you will walk a mile in their shoes and just as importantly, you will get to hear how the market responds to your messaging. Then take all that great knowledge and coach your team.
- Coaching Step 4:
Let them compete. Sales Reps like to compete and allowing them to compete at the level of prospecting levels the playing field. Not everyone is a superstar when it comes to revenue but everyone can be a superstar when it comes to prospecting.
Well, I am out of baseball analogies so I guess I will wrap up now, but what I hope you take away from this is that just like Mickey Mantle, your team has to invest time on the playing field if they are going win the game!
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Posted by Matt Bertuzzi on Thu, Jun 18, 2009 @ 07:16 AM
There are most certainly very strong opinions on the status and future outlook of the Cold Call. Trish's post on Cold Calling 2.0 garnered the most comments this blog has seen in quite some time.
Coincidentally another Brit (I wish I was smart enough to orchestrate this), started an extremely active LinkedIn discussion on the topic.
Jay Powell from Business Intelligence Direct asked:
Cold calling, horrible word isn't it? When was the last time you received a "Cold Call"?
How effective was their call? Did you meet with them, agree to receive literature, or did you simply state you had no interest in their offer?
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Jay received 19 answers in 21 hours. This shows me one thing: Cold Calling is as hot a topic for Buyers as for Sellers.
I ran a quick cloud analysis on the keywords used in the 19 answers. Click the image to see the larger version.

Words the buyers used frequently:
- cold
- company
- sales
- vendor
Words the buyers used infrequently:
- information
- listen
- research
- success
- talking
To those that might argue that the Cold Calling 2.0 discussion is being made in a vacuum, I hope this data adds some credibility to the argument. In closing here are few highlights from comments in the LinkedIn discussion.
"The bottom line is that the caller took the time to make this "cold call" into a "warm call" by customizing the information that she presented to me. I haven't decided if I will use their service but I definitely will take the time to learn more about it."
"I have received a number of cold calls from recruiters and they have all completely failed to actually look at my resume or comprehend what it meant I could do."
"They gave no indication that they had any idea who I was, what I do, how this could be a benefit to me or worth my time. It's unlikely that a retun call to them will be a priority."
"Even if the call is truly a cold call the caller can do a better job if they know their material, are respectful of your time and continuously earn the right to go on by providing relevant information."
Thanks for listening and please let me know your thoughts!
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Posted by Trish Bertuzzi on Tue, Jun 16, 2009 @ 08:42 AM
Every day on Linkedin there seems to be a new discussion started on whether or not cold calling still works. I am going to say here what I say there:
There is no such thing as "cold calling" any longer. There is enough information at your disposal to know just about everything there is to know about your buyer except what they had for lunch (unless they are on Twitter!).
Nigel Edelshain just published an ebook called "Don't Cold Call. Social Call." And, he did a "bang up" job laying out this argument (I can say bang up because Nigel is British). The ebook discusses using social networks and Sales 2.0 tools to prospect.
In a nutshell, Nigel argues that:
- The cold call is dead, if it means "smiling and dialing" with little-to-no-preparation on behalf of the sales person. But smart prospecting is very much alive. Sales people can execute "social calls" using the latest in Sales 2.0 tools and social networks.
- There are Sales 2.0 tools now available (including social networks) that help you with the 3 most critical factors in successful prospecting:
Talking to the right people - often the hardest part of the prospecting cycle Establishing relationships - what do we have in common with our buyers Using changes in your buyer's environment - what trigger event just occurred that makes now the time to talk to you
- Old fashioned cold calling resulted in 1 meeting for every 100 dials. Nigel contends that with social calling you get dramatically increased results - 1 meeting in 12 dials.
So, if your prospect isn't responding to your marketing efforts, "don't cold call...social call".
What do you think? Can using social networking and Sales 2.0 tools in prospecting increase the ability to "get in" dramatically? Looking forward to your comments!
Posted by Cindy Littlefield on Wed, May 27, 2009 @ 06:45 AM
 I spend 1 - 2 hours a day prospecting with the majority of that time cold calling.
In my calling, I have come across a situation that needs to be addressed: Your phone system is sabotaging your sales efforts.
The accounts you are about to read are true. No names will be mentioned to protect my future prospecting efforts......
I am armed and ready for my Power Hour of prospecting. I pick up the phone, make the call (to my VP-level prospect) and am greeted by a lovely voice that welcomes me to the company with these kind words:
"Press 1 for sales", "Press 2 if you are looking for your license key to blah blah product". "Press 3 for finance", "Press 4 for customer service", etc. Finally I hear "Press 9 for the company directory or press 0 for the operator". Excellent, I press 9 for the "Company Directory".
Almost there, but wait, you aren't listed in the directory, that's odd?! I can't tell you the number of times that has happened to me. So I press 0 for the operator. Now here is where I've experienced a very mixed bag.
Sometimes you can't press 0 to get to the operator from the directory. Sometimes I get dumped into the "general mailbox" with a message that says, "We are not available to take your call. Please leave a message in the general mailbox and we will return your call promptly". Like that is going to happen. Who ever got a call back from leaving a message in the general mailbox?
I've experienced this as well: At the end of all of the "Press x for y" the phone system suggests that you go to the website, www.newstartup.com for more information. So it's back to the web site to Contact us? What???? Just email addresses. Don't you want to ever speak with anyone?
Now any self respecting cold caller will go for the Sales prompt and ask the helpful sales person to connect you with Mr. VP. That works in some cases, but only when there is a sales answer. I can't tell you how many times I've gone to the sales prompt only to find that I am leaving a message in yet again another general mailbox.
This challenge prompted me to keep some stats for myself. Here is what I came up with:
- If I make a total of 20 calls.
- 4 of them are answered by a live person and all is well with the world.
- 10 of my prospects won't be found in the corporate directory.
- Out of that 10, when a sales prompt is offered, I am put straight into voicemail 5 times.
- That's 5 potential sales opportunities missed.
Here is my point. I know the name of your company. I know who I want to connect with; I'm a pro and won't give up. But if I can't get through to you - will your prospects, potential partners or others be able to?
If it is difficult for me to connect with you I will move on to the next company. If it is difficult for your prospects to connect with you, won't they move on the next company as well?
If you have similar experiences, please share. As we are all in the business of making that connection I am sure we will all find your experiences helpful.
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